To Wander Like a Cloud...
To “wander like a cloud”, one must first establish oneself in cultivation.
For Cloud Wandering (云游) is a classical Daoist concept, where one is not aimlessly wandering around, not travelling for pleasure, nor escape, but for cultivation of oneself.
Cloud Wandering traditionally referred to a stage in a cultivators life where one must leave the refuge of the temple, adapting to the ever-changing circumstances of life, in order to find the temple within.
Through the exploration of different places, cultures and teachers, it helps one to shed fixed attachments of identity, to find the True Self.
Along the way one must act with virtue and be of service where needed, holding fast to one’s own cultivation practices.
Kia Ora
We are Kate and Henri Lebedev.
Kate was born in Fremantle, West Aus, and is a Registered Nurse in NZ & Aus with a specialisation in mental health. Henri was born in Pärnu, Estonia, where he became a national boxing champion and avid gardener.
Our paths crossed at an International Buddhist Conference in 2019, where we quickly discovered a shared passion for the Chinese martial, medical, and spiritual traditions - fields we had each been studying independently for many years.
Cloud Wanderers Ltd
In 2020, we established Cloud Wanderers Ltd in New Zealand as a way to share and continue exploring the Internal Arts of Qigong, Neigong, Neidan, Taiji, and Chinese Medicine.
Our long term goal is to build 'Nature Temple' a nature sanctuary for people to practice the Internal Arts, including accommodation, training facilities, a Chinese Medicine clinic, healthfood store and a restaurant and more...
Internal Arts study with Damo Mitchell
Having studied with teachers in Australia, New Zealand, China, Singapore, Malaysia and yonder, we have found Damo Mitchell to be the clearest guide to the Internal Arts.
We train as full-time students at Damo's school in Bali for ~6 months a year and are approved instructors for the Neigong syllabus, which forms the core of our NeiGong events.
Traditional Chinese Medicine
We are both final-year students of
New Zealand School of Acupuncture & Traditional Chinese Medicine.
Alongside this, we study casually study at the Xian Tian College of Chinese Medicine, with Damo Mitchell as well as studying Dr. Michael Corrodino’s curriculum at his School of Neuropuncture.
In 2026 we will be opening our little clinic.. stay tuned !
Oriveda Mushroom Extracts
We are partners with the Dutch-based medicinal mushroom brand, Oriveda - specialising in the highest quality medicinal mushroom extracts available worldwide.
- Mushrooms are grown in pristine conditions,
- Extraction is carried out with sophisticated biotechnology,
- Finished products are tested by independant labratories
- Lab reports for bioactive compounds, heavy metals & pestacides are shared openly so you can see for yourself just how potent and safe Oriveda's mushroom extracts are.
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